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Statements

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Γεώργιος (Greek)

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Noble and other titles

εξ απορρήτων (Greek)

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Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Τραπεζούντιος (Greek)

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Peri torinon Ellinon evdokimisanton en pasi paideia kai epistimi, epi tou aionos tis nyn despoteias ton Othomanon, fotisanton en panti eidei logou pollous ton en skotei amousias kathevdonton

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C06-001.pdf

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Source of information

Afigisis proeisodiodis peri archis kai proodou tis kata tin filosofian enstaseos. Kai peri ton en Filosofia genomenon aireseon kai ton kat' aftas malista evdokimikoton

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C09-003.pdf

Source of information

Meleti tis koinis ellinikis dialektou

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C15-012.pdf

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

Κρης (Greek)

3 references

Source of information

Afigisis proeisodiodis peri archis kai proodou tis kata tin filosofian enstaseos. Kai peri ton en Filosofia genomenon aireseon kai ton kat' aftas malista evdokimikoton

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C09-003.pdf

Source of information

Meleti tis koinis ellinikis dialektou

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C15-012.pdf

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

1395^Gregorian

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

1486^Gregorian

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

gender qualifier

1 reference

Source of information

Periigitikon Pyktation

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Guarino da Verona

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Is referenced in the catalogue as

τον γβαρίνον

Vittorino da Feltre

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

2 references

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

Pope Nicholas V

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Alfonso V of Aragon

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Andreas Trapezuntius

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Basileios Bessarion

3 references

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Source of information

Afigisis proeisodiodis peri archis kai proodou tis kata tin filosofian enstaseos. Kai peri ton en Filosofia genomenon aireseon kai ton kat' aftas malista evdokimikoton

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C09-003.pdf

Source of information

Meleti tis koinis ellinikis dialektou

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C15-012.pdf

4 references

Source of information

Meleti tis koinis ellinikis dialektou

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C15-012.pdf

Source of information

Afigisis proeisodiodis peri archis kai proodou tis kata tin filosofian enstaseos. Kai peri ton en Filosofia genomenon aireseon kai ton kat' aftas malista evdokimikoton

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C09-003.pdf

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

John VIII Palaiologos

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Johannes Cubuclesius

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Simon Constantinopolitanus

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Georgios Sphrantzes

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Andrew Argenti of Chios

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Leonello d'Este

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Is referenced in the catalogue as

λεονήλλον εστένσιν

Francesco Barbaro

1 reference

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

Linguistic Register (string)

ελληνίζειν

1 reference

Source of information

Periigitikon Pyktation

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C19-045.pdf

λατινίζειν

1 reference

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C19-045.pdf

ελληνιστί

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

λατινιστί

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

λατινικώς

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Intellectual Capital (string)

ρητορική

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

φιλοσοφία

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Profile assessment (string)

ανήρ επιστήμων

1 reference

Source of information

Peri torinon Ellinon evdokimisanton en pasi paideia kai epistimi, epi tou aionos tis nyn despoteias ton Othomanon, fotisanton en panti eidei logou pollous ton en skotei amousias kathevdonton

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C06-001.pdf

savant

1 reference

Source of information

Cours de littérature grecque moderne

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C11-001.pdf

φώσφορος

1 reference

Source of information

Periigitikon Pyktation

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C19-045.pdf

Places of residence

2 references

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

2 references

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

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Speech community

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Language proficiency

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1 reference

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

Is listed in the catalogue

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

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Peri torinon Ellinon evdokimisanton en pasi paideia kai epistimi, epi tou aionos tis nyn despoteias ton Othomanon, fotisanton en panti eidei logou pollous ton en skotei amousias kathevdonton

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Afigisis proeisodiodis peri archis kai proodou tis kata tin filosofian enstaseos. Kai peri ton en Filosofia genomenon aireseon kai ton kat' aftas malista evdokimikoton

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Meleti tis koinis ellinikis dialektou

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Cours de littérature grecque moderne

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Periigitikon Pyktation

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Grammateia neotiriki

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Is referenced in the catalogue as

Γεώργιος ο Τραπεζούντιος

4 references

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

Γεώργιος Τραπεζούντιος

2 references

Source of information

Peri torinon Ellinon evdokimisanton en pasi paideia kai epistimi, epi tou aionos tis nyn despoteias ton Othomanon, fotisanton en panti eidei logou pollous ton en skotei amousias kathevdonton

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C06-001.pdf

Γεώργιος ο Τραπεζούντιος ο Κρης

4 references

Source of information

Afigisis proeisodiodis peri archis kai proodou tis kata tin filosofian enstaseos. Kai peri ton en Filosofia genomenon aireseon kai ton kat' aftas malista evdokimikoton

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C09-003.pdf

Source of information

Meleti tis koinis ellinikis dialektou

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C15-012.pdf

George de Trébizonde

2 references

Source of information

Cours de littérature grecque moderne

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C11-001.pdf

τους Γεωργίους

2 references

Source of information

Periigitikon Pyktation

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C19-045.pdf

includes research by

Giorgos Giovanidis

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part of research dataset

Greek Catalogues

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P-170

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sameAs (Wikidata ID)

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sameAs (Wikidata URL)

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q533514

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https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

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https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C06-001.pdf

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https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C09-003.pdf

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https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C15-012.pdf

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https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C11-001.pdf

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https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C19-045.pdf

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https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

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Related resources

https://data.cerl.org/thesaurus/cnp01235206

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3 references

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Source of information

Cours de littérature grecque moderne

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C11-001.pdf

Source of information

Grammateia neotiriki

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C20-028.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

3 references

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Source of information

Afigisis proeisodiodis peri archis kai proodou tis kata tin filosofian enstaseos. Kai peri ton en Filosofia genomenon aireseon kai ton kat' aftas malista evdokimikoton

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C09-003.pdf

Source of information

Meleti tis koinis ellinikis dialektou

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C15-012.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Transtemporal Communities

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

John the Evangelist

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

3 references

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Source of information

Afigisis proeisodiodis peri archis kai proodou tis kata tin filosofian enstaseos. Kai peri ton en Filosofia genomenon aireseon kai ton kat' aftas malista evdokimikoton

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C09-003.pdf

Source of information

Meleti tis koinis ellinikis dialektou

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C15-012.pdf

Charalampus of Magnesia

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Claudius Ptolemy

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Marcus Tullius Cicero

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Cyril of Alexandria

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

John Chrysostom

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Matthew the Evangelist

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Gregory of Nyssa

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Basil of Caesarea

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Eusebius of Caesarea

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Johann Joseph Pock

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Is referenced in the catalogue as

τον Ιωσήφ πόκιον

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Is referenced in the catalogue as

τον ουδίνον

Johann Georg Heinsius

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Is referenced in the catalogue as

τον χαΐνσιον

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Jacobus Pontanus

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Johann Albert Fabricius

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Is referenced in the catalogue as

Γυλιέλμου Καβαίου

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Is referenced in the catalogue as

ερρː ουαρː

Flaminio Cornaro

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Is referenced in the catalogue as

φλαμίνιον Κορνήλιον

Demetrios Symeon

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Johann Jakob Hofmann

1 reference

Source of information

Nea Ellas i Ellinikon Theatron

https://lms.fu-berlin.de/bbcswebdav/orgs/PhilGeist_Neograezistik/EM/D-C03-006.pdf

Is referenced in the catalogue as

τον χοφ Μάνον

manuscript medium

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Fields of practice

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sameAs (Wikidata Federation)

http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q533514

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